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Why Peter Bjorn and John Must Be Stopped

As I mentioned in my previous post, we are headed into SXSW with the serious danger that Peter Bjorn and John will be turned into the "buzz" or "breakout" band of the festival. What is the evidence for this? Consider:
For the people doing the judging—i.e., the major media, many of whom parachute into the indie-rock world for SXSW and want to emerge having declared someone the victor—these are just the sort of signposts that they study to figure out which bands to follow while they're there. Right now, as I type this, reporters for national magazines and newspapers are looking through music blogs, looking at download charts, trying to draw up a short list of potential buzz bands that they can flog to their readership.

As much as we would all like to just ignore the whole "buzz band" phenomenon -- to chalk it up (correctly) to the meaningless machinations of a press in need of a story -- the fact is that those decisions matter. They matter in terms of what bands get played, what bands get signed, what bands get associated with indie rock as a genre. Whether we like it or not, the sound of the "buzz band" gets attributed to us, in terms of what we supposedly like. We, the indie-rock fans, suffer when the buzz band is bad.

Which brings us to the question: Do we want Peter Bjorn and John to be hailed as the standard bearers for a whole genre of music? And the answer is: NO WAY. As I acknowledged in the previous post, "Young Folks" was catchy and harmless, but this band is not a significant band. Peter Bjorn and John must be stopped.

And we can do it. As admittedly cheesy as this may sound, if there's one thing that blogs (and consumer-generated media more generally) have taught us in the last few years, it's that those of us who try hard enough really can affect the culture, even if we never get some big cultural institution to back us up. This has been especially true with indie rock.

We make these bands ourselves, online, though our posts, listens, downloads, and links. If we want to take them down, we can. In the case of Peter Bjorn and John, we must.

As for how, I will get into that in the next post.

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Why the hate on an awesoem band?

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I'm maybe convinced. But I don't know if they can be stopped. It doesn't seem possible to stop a band. Has it ever happened?

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Of course it's possible to stop a band. But you probably don't remember Buddy Holly and the Crickets. Everyone thought that the plane crash was just an accident.

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I'm confused as to why they need to be "stopped." What is it to you if they're popular? Why does this influence what bands you can like or listen to? Are you bound to only listen to or read about "buzz bands?"
Because if that's true, then that might be your problem, dude.

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Did you just use the word "signifiers" to smack down someone you then called a fuckface? The word "signifier?" In the first couple of posts--and hostile posts at that? Oh dear. Theoretical shields at the ready, people. This is going nowhere good.

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This is quite possibly the dumbest "protest" I've ever seen. I can only assume Peter, Bjorn or John turned down the blogger's sexual proposition, and I'm sure it hasn't even occurred to him/her that this "protest" will only give the band free additional publicity and Pitchfork et al a new angle to write about.

If you insist on wasting energy on such endeavors, can't you protest Rascal Flatts or the Black Eyed Peas or some band that REALLY sucks?

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Uninspired ho-hum "syncopation".

Why many "indie" rockers think that any crap music NOT on a major label is instantly credible for that reason alone, is a problem within the culture itself.

But...

If you're headed to SXSW, you'll probably talk up and cheer on some other ho-hum band that YOU LIKE. Look closely... you're probably part of the problem that you are trying to solve, my friend.

BTW, I had never even HEARD of these jokers on the national touring scene until YOUR blog.

So, you just keep reading indie music rags, checking the ratings on YOU nUBE and do indeed continue to be told what to like by your local college DJ's playlists.

-FOH engineer since before YOU were listening to HANSON and thought they were cool.

Josh said...

Culture is important. You're right, and everyone who makes the predictable point that you're also giving the band press isn't thinking hard enough.

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how many of these indie bands at SXSW are "significant?" how many bands ever have changed our society in a significant way? get over yourself

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So your plan to stop this band is to stage a media event that will generate them tons of free publicity?

Um, yeah... good luck with that.

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i like any poster that uses the term "national touring scene"

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Honestly, picking on Swedes. There's nothing in the world more important? Wanker.

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I hope the good people at Waterloo have the decency to remove you from their property. Besides, if you're really a fan of music, and love it, who cares what bands are being hyped in the press? Ironically, your little protest will only serve to hype this band more, because folks will now want to see/hear why there's a protest over it. Congrats, asshat.

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this whole campaign is to defend what everyone else thinks of indie rock fans? who cares what they think about us! why the hell did you start listening to this music in the first place?
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Everybody thinks everyone else is a hipster. Nobody thinks that they could be that douche. But we are all that douche at one time or another.

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Maybe this is an elaborate publicity stunt conjured up by the band? Possible. It seems some posters are saying they never even heard of this band until they read the blog. I myself heard of this blog on KROQ in L.A. which is a big station out here in Southern California. Trickeries amongst us........it just may be so.

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maybe peter bjorn and john are popular for a reason. because they have some talent! they did not get buzzy for no reason. and I can't wait to see them tonight!

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you're saying that you don't want pbj to be the face of indie rock... b/c it makes indie rock look bad---the point of indie rock is that it doesn't really have a face. it's about being new and innovative. also, if indie rock did have a face, it wouldn't really matter b/c true indie rock fans don't care about that stuff. they care about good music. hence, i think your argument represents a gross misunderstanding.

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Who cares if this band is giving you a bad name? If your own reputation is so significantly represented by whatever music is popular, then you're too "scene". Let people listen to what they want to hear. Part of the greatness of music is diversity. If you think Peter, Bjorn, and John are a threat to your... musical success (?) then you're not relying on yourself enough to bring you to fame.

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How do you even measure a band's significance? It is so subjective. They deserve to play their music. Get a life. No one is forcing you to listen to them if you don't want to.

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This is hilarious. It's like Fred Phelps' obsession with gay people. Indie Rock ceased to be innovative long ago. It's the new pop. Accept it.

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Whoever made the comment that the hook of Young Folks is practically identical to the Jimmy Fallon and Horatio Sanz Christmas Song...THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! That was the absolute first thing I thought when I heard the song, and I was practically dying laughing that a band that's supposed to be cool and indie is actually just ripping off SNL. How has no one else realized this yet???

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You could talk more of their music instead of just assuming that every listener out there has an innate knowledge to tell the difference between timeless, cultural-impacting music and catchy drivel. I couldn't say I don't agree with you, but I definitely will say that I don't agree with your bullshit, short-ass explanation that probably leaves most people confused or diverted from your real meaning. So tell me, how do you know when an artist's music will impact cultures? What does that mean to you? You say nothing convincing and only ramble on and on about how they need to be stopped, like a bored child who has nothing else to do. Fill in the blanks because right now your argument has no fucking personality.

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you do realize you didn't actually answer the question of "Why should they be stopped?"

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